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With its Berlin premiere behind us and theatrical release just on the horizon, right now everyone is abuzz with excitement for Wes Anderson’s latest swirling ensemble film The Grand Budapest Hotel. But while we’re appreciating the wonderful world of Wes, let’s take a trip back in time to his younger days as a filmmaker.

In 2002, between completing The Royal Tenenbaums and gifting us with The Life Aquatic, Anderson took a moment to guest host on Charlie Rose. Originally airing on July 24, 2002, here we see Anderson in conversation with, none other than, the notorious Robert Evans—who gave us such cinematic staples as Rosemary’s Baby, Chinatown, The Godfather, Harold and Maude, Serpico, The Conversation, and more. In the five segments below, we listen in as Anderson and Evans discuss the infamous producer discuss his past, his future, and hyperbolic work of brilliant autobiography The Kid Stays in the Picture.

Enjoy for yourself.